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[WSM_Forum] Tribune (Labour)
darrell.whitehead@gmail.com [WSM_Forum]
2018-10-01 12:28:54 UTC
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The new relaunched Labour party 'Tribune' magazine carries the subtitle 'Britain's Oldest Democratic Socialist Publication' being established in 1937.
http://www.tribunemag.co.uk/ http://www.tribunemag.co.uk/


Louis Proyect covers a wage issue over the relaunch here
https://louisproyect.org/2018/09/27/jacobin-accused-of-reneging-on-wage-deal-in-british-takeover-of-tribune-magazine/ https://louisproyect.org/2018/09/27/jacobin-accused-of-reneging-on-wage-deal-in-british-takeover-of-tribune-magazine/
Matthew Culbert lists@prolerat.org [WSM_Forum]
2018-10-01 14:08:06 UTC
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Well here is the email address ***@tribunemag.co.uk

Flood them with protests.

I have already written under the subject line 'Tribune deception' as
follows,

Dear Editor(s),

 Your blurb of Tribune being ' Britain’s oldest democratic socialist
publication', is incorrect as well as misleading.

That accolade belongs uncontroversially to the Socialist Standard
published without interruption from 1904.

The /*Socialist Standard*/ is a monthly socialist newspaper published
without interruption since 1904 by the Socialist Party of Great Britain.
The newspaper is written in a simple, direct style and focuses mainly on
socialist advocacy and Marxian analysis of current events, particularly
those affecting the United Kingdom.

It was placed on a secret list of papers and magazines banned for export
during WorldWar I, for its call for workers to refuse to fight for their
countries and instead join the class war. In 1915 it published an
article written by a member of the Bolshevik party calling for a
socialist solution to the war.

In 1918, however, the paper voiced the first doubts of the SPGB
regarding the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia.

In the 1930s it drew on the reports from Spain to produce articles on
the looming menace of aerial warfare.

During World War II the magazine evaded the censor largely by producing
a series of articles on the Peloponnesian and similar ancient wars as a
cover for the Party’s opposition to the current one.

The SPGB maintains that it is not a left-wing organisation nor its
journal, The Socialist Standard a left-wing journal. ‘Left-wing’, it
contends, has simply become an umbrella designation for protest groups
and organisations demanding amendments and reforms to capitalism. The
SPGB and the World Socialist Movement (with which the SPGB is
associated) contrary to the views and aspirations of these myriad groups
and organisations that would claim to be left-wing, affirms that
capitalism is incapable of meaningful reform;that quintessentially the
basis of the exploitation of the working class is the wages/money system.

Regards,

Matthew Culbert
alan johnstone alanjjohnstone@yahoo.co.uk [WSM_Forum]
2018-10-02 00:46:38 UTC
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My piece to the editor
"Members and sympathisers of the Labour Party may persist in blinding themselves to unwelcomed facts which they have done since its formation but fortunately there exists the Socialist Party of Great Britain to disillusion them.
 Tribune is not the oldest extant "democratic socialist publication." That honour belongs to the SPGB's journal "The Socialist Standard", published uninterrupted since 1904.
We are well accustomed to the left-wing endeavouring to steal our accolades. The Socialist Party of England and Wales (SPEW), formerly Militant, previously tried to hijack our name - "the Socialist Party" - which the Electoral Commission has upheld that the Socialist Party (of Great Britain) alone are eligible to use in elections."
And a blog
http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-socialist-standard-is-oldest-extant.html
  alan johnstone

From: "Matthew Culbert ***@prolerat.org [WSM_Forum]" <***@yahoogroups.com>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 1 October 2018, 21:11
Subject: Re: [WSM_Forum] Tribune (Labour)

  Well here is the email address ***@tribunemag.co.uk Flood them with protests.
I have already written under the subject line 'Tribune deception' as follows, Dear Editor(s),  Your blurb of Tribune being ' Britain’s oldest democratic socialist publication', is incorrect as well as misleading. That accolade belongs uncontroversially to the Socialist Standard published without interruption from 1904. The Socialist Standard is a monthly socialist newspaper published without interruption since 1904 by the Socialist Party of Great Britain. The newspaper is written in a simple, direct style and focuses mainly on socialist advocacy and Marxian analysis of current events, particularly those affecting the United Kingdom. It was placed on a secret list of papers and magazines banned for export during World War I, for its call for workers to refuse to fight for their countries and instead join the class war. In 1915 it published an article written by a member of the Bolshevik party calling for a socialist solution to the war. In 1918, however, the paper voiced the first doubts of the SPGB regarding the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. In the 1930s it drew on the reports from Spain to produce articles on the looming menace of aerial warfare. During World War II the magazine evaded the censor largely by producing a series of articles on the Peloponnesian and similar ancient wars as a cover for the Party’s opposition to the current one. The SPGB maintains that it is not a left-wing organisation nor its journal, The Socialist Standard a left-wing journal. ‘Left-wing’, it contends, has simply become an umbrella designation for protest groups and organisations demanding amendments and reforms to capitalism. The SPGB and the World Socialist Movement (with which the SPGB is associated) contrary to the views and aspirations of these myriad groups and organisations that would claim to be left-wing, affirms that capitalism is incapable of meaningful reform;that quintessentially the basis of the exploitation of the working class is the wages/money system. Regards,Matthew Culbert
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